"German nationalism threatens Oktoberfest"

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,254) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/22/opinions/oktoberfest-politics-germany-opinion-intl/index.html
     
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  2. Alefflicted

    Alefflicted Crusader (445) Dec 2, 2017 Minnesota

    I think it's better if I keep my mouth shut...
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I suppose in any representative democracy where there will be crowds of people there will be politicians politicking? Shaking hands, kissing babies. Oh well!?! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Cheers!
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,611) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    They have the Mayor of Munich tap the first wooden keg on the opening Saturday. One year he did a crap job of it. It was a scandalous, almost cost him his job.
     
  5. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    An interesting article, but I really have no idea how the title of it reflects the content.
     
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  6. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Title = clickbait
    Content, doesn't matter; they already have you counted for their advertising $$.
     
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  7. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Keep in mind it is an op-ed piece.
     
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  8. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,689) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Well, Bavaria, the rest of Germany and really all of Europe are tangled in a re-emergence of unoriginal and destructive political thinking. I think less about the effect on Oktoberfest, but do think more about where this trend will lead. Macron in France and Trudeau in Canada are heartening to me personally. It is happening here in America with a decent percentage of the populace in agreement..I still marvel at the disgusting display in my beloved Charlottesville. We shall see.........
     
  9. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    There's always blowback from any far left or far right agenda. Here's the blowback for the far left Merkle leadership, and average people live mostly in the middle I'd suppose, and Germany's open arms to everyone has been a problem to say the least. They're tired of it and they're going to flip it the other way. It'll happen here too in reverse I suppose, the lunatic fringe has a fairly loud voice in both Germany and the US.
     
  10. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,326) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Last week there was an article about German traditionalists saying that Oktoberfest was being ruined by the busty foreigners dressing in low cut beermaid "porn" dresses - and now politicians. I'd put up with the politicians as long as the busty beermaids in porn dresses are still in attendance.
     
  11. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,039) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    The CDU and Merkel are centre right, not far left.

    I always thought it was the Italians or Aussies who ruined Oktoberfest, no doubt they think it's the British who do :slight_smile:
     
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  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Yeah, sure... but even by those standards I’m still scratching my head... or perhaps I’m still just too naive. It doesn’t help that BeerAdvocate reproduces the language due to their blanket convention of using an article title as a thread title.
     
  13. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Hmm. From what I gather the problems in Germany stem from the extremely liberal Merkle accepting in thousands of middle eastern refugees. And the resulting problems with assimilation, and rising crime. I'm confused how extremely liberal equals center right? The liberal part isn't my words they're from npr broadcasts.
     
  14. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,689) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I was visiting Carlsberg Brewery In Copenhagen in 1972 with a Canadian friend. We did the tour with the very generous beer and food offering. A few Aussies had caught up with us, and they were out of control. One guy puked all over the table and we had to haul him out. I told them he wasn't an American.
     
  15. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,820) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    It also calls on ethnic Germans to have more children to prevent the eradication of the German people. "The preservation of one's own national people is a priority in politics and for every government," the party said in its manifesto for last year's federal election.

    So Germany has Nazis again... We have a return of high waisted jeans.
     
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  16. Phoodcritic

    Phoodcritic Pooh-Bah (1,868) Jul 3, 2014 Michigan
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    Hanglow is correct. Merkel's party, the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), has been Germany's main center-right party since its founding in 1945. Better to stick with subjects you know.
     
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  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,611) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The SDP was the left party when I lived there, it seems some people never heard of Gerhard Schroeder.

    Twenty years ago I went to Oktoberfest. The people from Munich said the worst were the Kiwis.
     
  18. Tamarack

    Tamarack Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2016 Massachusetts

    This uhhh.....this definitely ain't it
     
  19. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    This is the problem when you listen to the radio with half an ear at work. But they were talking about the problems popping up in Germany right now and how's it's fracturing relations. Pro Merkle, anti Merkle, the problem with the massive in flow of middle eastern refugees. The Nazi salute making a comeback in kinda news in and by itself. I'm not a politico I just equated Germanys problems to the political polarization here, as simple liberal left vs the conservative Reps. Sounds like it's not that simple, and it's not simple here either I suppose, most of us are moderate either way, it's the extremes that make the news.
     
  20. Number1Framer

    Number1Framer Pundit (896) Mar 13, 2016 Wisconsin
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    Spoiler alert: Nationalists and 'purity' maniacs ruin every country in which they exist. Doesn't matter if they hide behind a waving flag or a religious text, the only way to protect the things you love is to dispose of them like the trash they are. Give a hoot, don't pollute!
     
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